Ubuntu 24.04

[Jack]

Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some at
this link:

<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>

The beta changes were these:

<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>

I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.

Good luck and post your views about this new release.

[Kyonshi]

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some at
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

[Simon]

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some at
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

I am so old I remember selling boxed versions of Redhat, Mandrake and Suse. I
think there was Corel or something like that but they were boxed with CDs and a
manual.

[RonB]

Post by Simon

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some at
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

I am so old I remember selling boxed versions of Redhat, Mandrake and Suse. I
think there was Corel or something like that but they were boxed with CDs and a
manual.

I bought a boxed copy of SuSE. Also a couple boxed versions of Caldera,
Linspire (I believe it was called) and one more I can't think of right now.

[Simon]

Post by RonB

Post by Simon

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some at
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

I am so old I remember selling boxed versions of Redhat, Mandrake and Suse. I
think there was Corel or something like that but they were boxed with CDs and a
manual.

I bought a boxed copy of SuSE. Also a couple boxed versions of Caldera,
Linspire (I believe it was called) and one more I can't think of right now.

I had only used Redhat before so settled on Mandrake as it still used rpms and
had a thriving usenet group at the time. My girlfriend at the time used Suse, I
don't know what the reason was but it was nice to have choices.

[RonB]

Post by Simon

Post by RonB

Post by Simon

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some at
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

I am so old I remember selling boxed versions of Redhat, Mandrake and Suse. I
think there was Corel or something like that but they were boxed with CDs and a
manual.

I bought a boxed copy of SuSE. Also a couple boxed versions of Caldera,
Linspire (I believe it was called) and one more I can't think of right now.

I had only used Redhat before so settled on Mandrake as it still used rpms and
had a thriving usenet group at the time. My girlfriend at the time used Suse, I
don't know what the reason was but it was nice to have choices.

I installed Mandrake once (before I fully moved to Linux), but I didn't buy
the boxed set. I guess Mandrake/Mandriva still (sort of) lives on through
OpenMandriva, PCLinuxOS and Mageia. I haven't tried any of these in a long
time.

[J.O. Aho]

Post by Simon

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some at
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

I am so old I remember selling boxed versions of Redhat, Mandrake and Suse. I
think there was Corel or something like that but they were boxed with CDs and a
manual.

You did also get those in RedHat books too, I think I have a couple of
RH6 CDs still, the books are still great, when you want to have a
monitor a bit higher up, just put a brick under it and yeah, perfect
hight :P

[Simon]

Post by J.O. Aho

Post by Simon

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some at
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

I am so old I remember selling boxed versions of Redhat, Mandrake and Suse. I
think there was Corel or something like that but they were boxed with CDs and a
manual.

You did also get those in RedHat books too, I think I have a couple of
RH6 CDs still, the books are still great, when you want to have a
monitor a bit higher up, just put a brick under it and yeah, perfect
hight :P

Yes those books were great, you got something that lasted beyond the life of the
OS and mostly remained usable until you could remember it on your own.

[Auric__]

Post by J.O. Aho

Post by Simon

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-lo
ok-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

I am so old I remember selling boxed versions of Redhat, Mandrake and
Suse. I think there was Corel or something like that but they were
boxed with CDs and a manual.

You did also get those in RedHat books too, I think I have a couple of
RH6 CDs still, the books are still great, when you want to have a
monitor a bit higher up, just put a brick under it and yeah, perfect
hight :P

I bought an intro to Linux book in the mid-to-late-90s which included a 2-
disk Red Hat 5.1 set, and OpenLinux Lite 1.2 on a 3rd CD, and I got a
magazine around the same time which included a SuSE 5.2 CD on the cover. (I
still have the CDs; the book & magazine may or may not still be around; 25+
years can do funny things to possessions.) Both times it felt illegal to me;
I was unfamiliar with the concept of free/open source at the time. (Nowadays
it's Slackware on the server, Salix on the old laptop, and anything else
under emulation.)

[Simon]

Post by Auric__

Post by J.O. Aho

Post by Simon

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-lo
ok-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

I am so old I remember selling boxed versions of Redhat, Mandrake and
Suse. I think there was Corel or something like that but they were
boxed with CDs and a manual.

You did also get those in RedHat books too, I think I have a couple of
RH6 CDs still, the books are still great, when you want to have a
monitor a bit higher up, just put a brick under it and yeah, perfect
hight :P

I bought an intro to Linux book in the mid-to-late-90s which included a 2-
disk Red Hat 5.1 set, and OpenLinux Lite 1.2 on a 3rd CD, and I got a
magazine around the same time which included a SuSE 5.2 CD on the cover. (I
still have the CDs; the book & magazine may or may not still be around; 25+
years can do funny things to possessions.) Both times it felt illegal to me;
I was unfamiliar with the concept of free/open source at the time. (Nowadays
it's Slackware on the server, Salix on the old laptop, and anything else
under emulation.)

I used to pick and choose magazines to buy by the distro that was included that
month. I tried all sorts, with varying degrees of success, it was nice to try
them all.

[J.O. Aho]

Post by Simon
I used to pick and choose magazines to buy by the distro that was included that
month. I tried all sorts, with varying degrees of success, it was nice to try
them all.

I only bought those without the CDs, as they were a lot cheaper and I
did have a flat cost internet so I could download everything myself.

Sadly most places who had Linux magazines mainly just sold the with CD
version, so it was always going around the different stores and see if
they happen to have the CD free version that was almost half the price.

[Simon]

Post by J.O. Aho

Post by Simon
I used to pick and choose magazines to buy by the distro that was included that
month. I tried all sorts, with varying degrees of success, it was nice to try
them all.

I only bought those without the CDs, as they were a lot cheaper and I
did have a flat cost internet so I could download everything myself.
Sadly most places who had Linux magazines mainly just sold the with CD
version, so it was always going around the different stores and see if
they happen to have the CD free version that was almost half the price.

This was back in the mid 90s, so not only was internet slow and downloads
unreliable, it made the phone unusable which was not ideal either.

[J.O. Aho]

Post by Simon

Post by J.O. Aho

Post by Simon
I used to pick and choose magazines to buy by the distro that was included that
month. I tried all sorts, with varying degrees of success, it was nice to try
them all.

I only bought those without the CDs, as they were a lot cheaper and I
did have a flat cost internet so I could download everything myself.
Sadly most places who had Linux magazines mainly just sold the with CD
version, so it was always going around the different stores and see if
they happen to have the CD free version that was almost half the price.

This was back in the mid 90s, so not only was internet slow and downloads
unreliable, it made the phone unusable which was not ideal either.

Keep in mind that binaries wasn't that big either, so it didn't take for
ever to download applications, sure a full sized CD would take hours,
worst was those multi disk releases that could sometimes take a day or
so, I did have a dedicated phone line for my internet, so no risk of
someone picking up the phone and break the connection, but sure when not
having a dedicated line then things would be a bit random if you would
finish a download or not, or your MUD session was broken at a critical
stage in the adventure.

[Simon]

Post by J.O. Aho

Post by Simon

Post by J.O. Aho

Post by Simon
I used to pick and choose magazines to buy by the distro that was included that
month. I tried all sorts, with varying degrees of success, it was nice to try
them all.

I only bought those without the CDs, as they were a lot cheaper and I
did have a flat cost internet so I could download everything myself.
Sadly most places who had Linux magazines mainly just sold the with CD
version, so it was always going around the different stores and see if
they happen to have the CD free version that was almost half the price.

This was back in the mid 90s, so not only was internet slow and downloads
unreliable, it made the phone unusable which was not ideal either.

Keep in mind that binaries wasn't that big either, so it didn't take for
ever to download applications, sure a full sized CD would take hours,
worst was those multi disk releases that could sometimes take a day or
so, I did have a dedicated phone line for my internet, so no risk of
someone picking up the phone and break the connection, but sure when not
having a dedicated line then things would be a bit random if you would
finish a download or not, or your MUD session was broken at a critical
stage in the adventure.

True, updating a system was easy but downloading an ISO to try was an ordeal, I
was grateful for the magazine CDs. Hard to imagine in todays world where an DVD
ISO can be downloaded without any thought of the size or time.

[J.O. Aho]

Post by Simon

Post by J.O. Aho
Keep in mind that binaries wasn't that big either, so it didn't take for
ever to download applications, sure a full sized CD would take hours,
worst was those multi disk releases that could sometimes take a day or
so, I did have a dedicated phone line for my internet, so no risk of
someone picking up the phone and break the connection, but sure when not
having a dedicated line then things would be a bit random if you would
finish a download or not, or your MUD session was broken at a critical
stage in the adventure.

True, updating a system was easy but downloading an ISO to try was an ordeal, I
was grateful for the magazine CDs. Hard to imagine in todays world where an DVD
ISO can be downloaded without any thought of the size or time.

Later on I did do some downloads and burn CD's at the university, was a
bit faster with 1Gb network than my 16.8k modem, but flat rate I could
start something in the evening, let it download during my time away...
but don't forget the good side of the slow modem speeds, internet pages
wasn't big and complex and you got the information a lot simpler than
today when you have to have accounts, been tracked by cookies and
pixels, javascript that tries to emulate how it would be as a stand
alone application.

[Simon]

Post by J.O. Aho

Post by Simon

Post by J.O. Aho
Keep in mind that binaries wasn't that big either, so it didn't take for
ever to download applications, sure a full sized CD would take hours,
worst was those multi disk releases that could sometimes take a day or
so, I did have a dedicated phone line for my internet, so no risk of
someone picking up the phone and break the connection, but sure when not
having a dedicated line then things would be a bit random if you would
finish a download or not, or your MUD session was broken at a critical
stage in the adventure.

True, updating a system was easy but downloading an ISO to try was an ordeal, I
was grateful for the magazine CDs. Hard to imagine in todays world where an DVD
ISO can be downloaded without any thought of the size or time.

Later on I did do some downloads and burn CD's at the university, was a
bit faster with 1Gb network than my 16.8k modem, but flat rate I could
start something in the evening, let it download during my time away...
but don't forget the good side of the slow modem speeds, internet pages
wasn't big and complex and you got the information a lot simpler than
today when you have to have accounts, been tracked by cookies and
pixels, javascript that tries to emulate how it would be as a stand
alone application.

Ah yes but don't forget you needed to have Flash installed as many websites used
it and then all those games which were in Flash. OMG haha

[J.O. Aho]

Post by Simon

Post by J.O. Aho

Post by Simon

Post by J.O. Aho
Keep in mind that binaries wasn't that big either, so it didn't take for
ever to download applications, sure a full sized CD would take hours,
worst was those multi disk releases that could sometimes take a day or
so, I did have a dedicated phone line for my internet, so no risk of
someone picking up the phone and break the connection, but sure when not
having a dedicated line then things would be a bit random if you would
finish a download or not, or your MUD session was broken at a critical
stage in the adventure.

True, updating a system was easy but downloading an ISO to try was an ordeal, I
was grateful for the magazine CDs. Hard to imagine in todays world where an DVD
ISO can be downloaded without any thought of the size or time.

Later on I did do some downloads and burn CD's at the university, was a
bit faster with 1Gb network than my 16.8k modem, but flat rate I could
start something in the evening, let it download during my time away...
but don't forget the good side of the slow modem speeds, internet pages
wasn't big and complex and you got the information a lot simpler than
today when you have to have accounts, been tracked by cookies and
pixels, javascript that tries to emulate how it would be as a stand
alone application.

Ah yes but don't forget you needed to have Flash installed as many websites used
it and then all those games which were in Flash. OMG haha

yeah, that horror came a bit later, I still dream about the time before
when almost all sites had the under construction sign.

I know there was sites that was entirely built of flash, even on an
ms-windows those sites never worked fully out... and that jscript
appeared too, breaking everything, making sites only work fully on one
company's browser.

It was good times ;)

[Simon]

Post by J.O. Aho

Post by Simon

Post by J.O. Aho

Post by Simon

Post by J.O. Aho
Keep in mind that binaries wasn't that big either, so it didn't take for
ever to download applications, sure a full sized CD would take hours,
worst was those multi disk releases that could sometimes take a day or
so, I did have a dedicated phone line for my internet, so no risk of
someone picking up the phone and break the connection, but sure when not
having a dedicated line then things would be a bit random if you would
finish a download or not, or your MUD session was broken at a critical
stage in the adventure.

True, updating a system was easy but downloading an ISO to try was an ordeal, I
was grateful for the magazine CDs. Hard to imagine in todays world where an DVD
ISO can be downloaded without any thought of the size or time.

Later on I did do some downloads and burn CD's at the university, was a
bit faster with 1Gb network than my 16.8k modem, but flat rate I could
start something in the evening, let it download during my time away...
but don't forget the good side of the slow modem speeds, internet pages
wasn't big and complex and you got the information a lot simpler than
today when you have to have accounts, been tracked by cookies and
pixels, javascript that tries to emulate how it would be as a stand
alone application.

Ah yes but don't forget you needed to have Flash installed as many websites used
it and then all those games which were in Flash. OMG haha

yeah, that horror came a bit later, I still dream about the time before
when almost all sites had the under construction sign.

Oh yes, I remember that, all the geocities pages :-)

Post by J.O. Aho
I know there was sites that was entirely built of flash, even on an
ms-windows those sites never worked fully out... and that jscript
appeared too, breaking everything, making sites only work fully on one
company's browser.

All the css, if ie4 or ie5 etc I am so glad we don't do that anymore, oh wait.

Post by J.O. Aho
It was good times ;)

It was good to experience but I much prefer the way it is today, I pity those
who don't know what an adblocker is, or script blocker but for the www is a nice
place at the moment.

[Auric__]

[snip]

Post by Simon

Post by J.O. Aho

Post by Simon
I used to pick and choose magazines to buy by the distro that was
included that month. I tried all sorts, with varying degrees of
success, it was nice to try them all.

I only bought those without the CDs, as they were a lot cheaper and I
did have a flat cost internet so I could download everything myself.
Sadly most places who had Linux magazines mainly just sold the with CD
version, so it was always going around the different stores and see if
they happen to have the CD free version that was almost half the price.

This was back in the mid 90s, so not only was internet slow and
downloads unreliable, it made the phone unusable which was not ideal
either.

Indeed. I was the first person in my neighborhood to order high-speed
(cable) internet in 1999; the ISP took a few weeks to get the infrastructure
installed, which was frankly blazingly fast for them. My phone line was old
(installed around 1950, so... old) and could only support 28.8k, if I was
lucky. (My cell phone had no data plan; it was the size of an eyeglass case
but only had a tiny text screen, and it cost an arm and a leg.) I downloaded
Slackware 12 over dial-up in 2007 and it took me weeks; I can't imagine
trying to do it 8 years earlier on 50-year-old wires, especially before I
discovered wget.

But that's neither here nor there; the book was bought in another state,
while the magazine was purchased overseas.

[Simon]

Post by Auric__
[snip]

Post by Simon

Post by J.O. Aho

Post by Simon
I used to pick and choose magazines to buy by the distro that was
included that month. I tried all sorts, with varying degrees of
success, it was nice to try them all.

I only bought those without the CDs, as they were a lot cheaper and I
did have a flat cost internet so I could download everything myself.
Sadly most places who had Linux magazines mainly just sold the with CD
version, so it was always going around the different stores and see if
they happen to have the CD free version that was almost half the price.

This was back in the mid 90s, so not only was internet slow and
downloads unreliable, it made the phone unusable which was not ideal
either.

Indeed. I was the first person in my neighborhood to order high-speed
(cable) internet in 1999; the ISP took a few weeks to get the infrastructure
installed, which was frankly blazingly fast for them. My phone line was old
(installed around 1950, so... old) and could only support 28.8k, if I was
lucky. (My cell phone had no data plan; it was the size of an eyeglass case
but only had a tiny text screen, and it cost an arm and a leg.) I downloaded
Slackware 12 over dial-up in 2007 and it took me weeks; I can't imagine
trying to do it 8 years earlier on 50-year-old wires, especially before I
discovered wget.

I had DSL by 2004 so could download ISO in a few hours, depending on location.
This was a huge step up and lead to trying all sorts of distros. Finally able to
try things to see for myself.

Post by Auric__
But that's neither here nor there; the book was bought in another state,
while the magazine was purchased overseas.

I did have a large Linux book and also bought some Perl ones too, all lost to
moving overseas :-(

[Kyonshi]

Post by Simon

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some at
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

I am so old I remember selling boxed versions of Redhat, Mandrake and Suse. I
think there was Corel or something like that but they were boxed with CDs and a
manual.

I got into Linux around the time when they bundled new versions of
operating systems with magazines. I think my first Ubuntu discs actually
were Ubuntu branded, but other stuff was just the latest release of
whatever pc/linux mag decided to put on their cover this month.

(the first time I got one I installed was actually BeOS and I couldn't
make head nor tails of it)

[Simon]

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Simon

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some at
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

I am so old I remember selling boxed versions of Redhat, Mandrake and Suse. I
think there was Corel or something like that but they were boxed with CDs and a
manual.

I got into Linux around the time when they bundled new versions of
operating systems with magazines. I think my first Ubuntu discs actually
were Ubuntu branded, but other stuff was just the latest release of
whatever pc/linux mag decided to put on their cover this month.
(the first time I got one I installed was actually BeOS and I couldn't
make head nor tails of it)

I used Redhat before that but it was not a great success. Mandrake really got me
going and the community helped with any issues.

When Ubuntu came out, 2004(ish) I had a computer shop and they shipped the discs
in small cardboard envelopes, I gave loads away and many people installed Linux
because of those discs.

[Kyonshi]

Post by Simon

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Simon

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some at
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

I am so old I remember selling boxed versions of Redhat, Mandrake and Suse. I
think there was Corel or something like that but they were boxed with CDs and a
manual.

I got into Linux around the time when they bundled new versions of
operating systems with magazines. I think my first Ubuntu discs actually
were Ubuntu branded, but other stuff was just the latest release of
whatever pc/linux mag decided to put on their cover this month.
(the first time I got one I installed was actually BeOS and I couldn't
make head nor tails of it)

I used Redhat before that but it was not a great success. Mandrake really got me
going and the community helped with any issues.
When Ubuntu came out, 2004(ish) I had a computer shop and they shipped the discs
in small cardboard envelopes, I gave loads away and many people installed Linux
because of those discs.

ohh. Mandrake. I think that actually was my first Linux. I only had it
on my computer for a hot minute before I switched to Ubuntu back then.

[Simon]

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Simon

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Simon

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some at
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

I am so old I remember selling boxed versions of Redhat, Mandrake and Suse. I
think there was Corel or something like that but they were boxed with CDs and a
manual.

I got into Linux around the time when they bundled new versions of
operating systems with magazines. I think my first Ubuntu discs actually
were Ubuntu branded, but other stuff was just the latest release of
whatever pc/linux mag decided to put on their cover this month.
(the first time I got one I installed was actually BeOS and I couldn't
make head nor tails of it)

I used Redhat before that but it was not a great success. Mandrake really got me
going and the community helped with any issues.
When Ubuntu came out, 2004(ish) I had a computer shop and they shipped the discs
in small cardboard envelopes, I gave loads away and many people installed Linux
because of those discs.

ohh. Mandrake. I think that actually was my first Linux. I only had it
on my computer for a hot minute before I switched to Ubuntu back then.

Mandrake was at its best in the late 90s early 00s, by the time Ubuntu came out
people had moved onto to other distros. It is nice to see PClinxOS is still
going, not that I have it installed. :-(

[Big Al]

Post by Kyonshi

Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu website there are major changes
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

Ubuntu seems to be really active on releases.
See Distro Watch and look at their list of releases.
Kubuntu 24.10
Ubuntu Studio 24.04
Ubuntu Budgie 24.4
Ubuntu Cinnamon 24.04
Ubuntu MATE 24.04
Xubuntu 24.04
Lubuntu 24.04
Ubuntu 24.04 (of course)

[Kyonshi]

Post by Big Al

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

Ubuntu seems to be really active on releases.
See Distro Watch and look at their list of releases.
Kubuntu 24.10
Ubuntu Studio 24.04
Ubuntu Budgie 24.4
Ubuntu Cinnamon 24.04
Ubuntu MATE 24.04
Xubuntu 24.04
Lubuntu 24.04
Ubuntu 24.04 (of course)

well, yeah, they do a release every half a year for all of them.
it's kinda easy to be active if you release something on a 6 month
schedule.

How much they actually change is I guess a bit up for debate. I remember
a few where besides cosmetic changes nothing obvious really changed. On
the other hand that's better for people who need a stable work
environment. (hint towards Microsoft...)

[Big Al]

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Big Al

Post by Kyonshi

Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu website there are major
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

Ubuntu seems to be really active on releases.
See Distro Watch and look at their list of releases.
Kubuntu 24.10
Ubuntu Studio 24.04
Ubuntu Budgie 24.4
Ubuntu Cinnamon 24.04
Ubuntu MATE 24.04
Xubuntu 24.04
Lubuntu 24.04
Ubuntu 24.04 (of course)

well, yeah, they do a release every half a year for all of them.
it's kinda easy to be active if you release something on a 6 month schedule.
How much they actually change is I guess a bit up for debate. I remember a few where besides
cosmetic changes nothing obvious really changed. On the other hand that's better for people who need
a stable work environment. (hint towards Microsoft...)

In reading the article above, seems the replaced a few apps, installer for one. At least revamped.
Sounds like it would be fun to dump into a VM and play with, just to get the feel in my case.

[Kyonshi]

Post by Big Al

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Big Al

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

Ubuntu seems to be really active on releases.
See Distro Watch and look at their list of releases.
Kubuntu 24.10
Ubuntu Studio 24.04
Ubuntu Budgie 24.4
Ubuntu Cinnamon 24.04
Ubuntu MATE 24.04
Xubuntu 24.04
Lubuntu 24.04
Ubuntu 24.04 (of course)

well, yeah, they do a release every half a year for all of them.
it's kinda easy to be active if you release something on a 6 month schedule.
How much they actually change is I guess a bit up for debate. I
remember a few where besides cosmetic changes nothing obvious really
changed. On the other hand that's better for people who need a stable
work environment. (hint towards Microsoft...)

In reading the article above, seems the replaced a few apps, installer
for one.  At least revamped.
Sounds like it would be fun to dump into a VM and play with, just to get
the feel in my case.

It always is fun playing with a new distro. I'd use Xubuntu, had a lot
of success with that on various computers overtime. Really nice and
sleek system.

[Simon]

Post by Big Al

Post by Kyonshi

Post by Big Al

Post by Kyonshi

Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu website there are major
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

Ubuntu seems to be really active on releases.
See Distro Watch and look at their list of releases.
Kubuntu 24.10
Ubuntu Studio 24.04
Ubuntu Budgie 24.4
Ubuntu Cinnamon 24.04
Ubuntu MATE 24.04
Xubuntu 24.04
Lubuntu 24.04
Ubuntu 24.04 (of course)

well, yeah, they do a release every half a year for all of them.
it's kinda easy to be active if you release something on a 6 month schedule.
How much they actually change is I guess a bit up for debate. I remember a few where besides
cosmetic changes nothing obvious really changed. On the other hand that's better for people who need
a stable work environment. (hint towards Microsoft...)

In reading the article above, seems the replaced a few apps, installer for one. At least revamped.
Sounds like it would be fun to dump into a VM and play with, just to get the feel in my case.

I have read it is even harder to install a deb file now, pushing you into snaps.

[Jasen Betts]

Post by Big Al

Post by Kyonshi

Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu website there are major changes
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

Ubuntu seems to be really active on releases.
See Distro Watch and look at their list of releases.
Kubuntu 24.10
Ubuntu Studio 24.04
Ubuntu Budgie 24.4
Ubuntu Cinnamon 24.04
Ubuntu MATE 24.04
Xubuntu 24.04
Lubuntu 24.04
Ubuntu 24.04 (of course)

They're all the same distro just with different pre-configurations

[Simon]

Post by Jasen Betts

Post by Big Al

Post by Kyonshi

Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu website there are major changes
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

the shelves? do they even still make physical media?

Ubuntu seems to be really active on releases.
See Distro Watch and look at their list of releases.
Kubuntu 24.10
Ubuntu Studio 24.04
Ubuntu Budgie 24.4
Ubuntu Cinnamon 24.04
Ubuntu MATE 24.04
Xubuntu 24.04
Lubuntu 24.04
Ubuntu 24.04 (of course)

They're all the same distro just with different pre-configurations

That's a perfect description, I thought about it but this is far better.

[philo]

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some at
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

Now that I've been using 24.04 for a week or so, I see nothing different
from 22.04 other than when I check for updates, at least I am no longer
urged to switch to Pro.

[Big Al]

Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu website there are major changes
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

Now that I've been using 24.04 for a week or so, I see nothing different from 22.04 other than when
I check for updates, at least I am no longer urged to switch to Pro.

I made a partition and added it to my boot. I looked at that first web page of 20 new things, a
good amount I don't use, might but don't. I suppose this is all in the YMMV scenario. The One
Drive access might be nice.

[philo]

Im going to stick mainly with Ubuntu.
I'm always popping the HD into newer mobos and 100% of the time, the OS
has just booted up smoothly and worked.

My Mint 20.3 will not boot on any H/W other than that where it was
originally installed.

[Monsieur]

Post by philo
Im going to stick mainly with Ubuntu.
I'm always popping the HD into newer mobos and 100% of the time, the OS
has just booted up smoothly and worked.
My Mint 20.3 will not boot on any H/W other than that where it was
originally installed.

Yes, unfortunately the concept op Plug andd Play is still unknown to
Mint/Linux. Try changing a video card just for fun...

I mean, how hard can it be:

"Hey, I see some new stuff in your pc. Do you want me to forget the old
stuff and set up the new thing?"

Windows can do it, so why can't Mint/Linux...

[philo]

The problem I had was specifically with Mint. I've Bern using Ubuntu
for ages and have never had any such problem.

Windows never did a good job of reconfiguring into Win10

[Edmund]

Post by philo

Post by Jack
Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu
website there are major changes to look out for. He has listed some
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

Now that I've been using 24.04 for a week or so, I see nothing
different from 22.04 other than when I check for updates, at least I
am no longer urged to switch to Pro.

I made a partition and added it to my boot.  I looked at that first web
page of 20 new things, a good amount I don't use, might but don't.  I
suppose this is all in the YMMV scenario.  The One Drive access might be
nice.

Excuse me, the one drive??
Isn't that a windows thing?

If so, what is nice about handing over your last bit of privacy to windows?

[Anssi Saari]

Post by Edmund
Excuse me, the one drive??
Isn't that a windows thing?

Was. Apparently there's a Linux client now and it's FOSS.

[Edmund]

Post by Anssi Saari

Post by Edmund
Excuse me, the one drive??
Isn't that a windows thing?

Was. Apparently there's a Linux client now and it's FOSS.

No idea what FOSS is other then yet again another abbreviation. :-)
Never mind my point is still valid, why handing over your last bit of
privacy.

[Mike Easter]

Post by Edmund
No idea what FOSS is other then yet again another abbreviation. :-)

In defense of abbreviations;

- this is a linux group, and even 'beyond' linux I would have assumed
that 'everyone' (everyone is never everyone just like never is almost
never never) knew FOSS
- FOSS = free and open source software, where the meaning of 'free' is
libre
- I'm someone who uses 'specific' abbreviations 'all the time' having
their meaning defined in the same 'visual' context where the 'expanded'
abbreviation is visible in the same context, eg using the initials of a
familiar or recent msg poster eg BA could = Big Al
- if you don't recognize some abbreviation, particularly if you wish
there were less of them, you should learn how to find out what one
means, ranging from checking the wp to using a dictionary of acronyms
and abbreviations
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software

[Edmund]

Post by Mike Easter

Post by Edmund
No idea what FOSS is other then yet again another abbreviation. :-)

In defense of abbreviations;
 - this is a linux group, and even 'beyond' linux I would have assumed
that 'everyone' (everyone is never everyone just like never is almost
never never) knew FOSS
 - FOSS = free and open source software, where the meaning of 'free' is
libre
 - I'm someone who uses 'specific' abbreviations 'all the time' having
their meaning defined in the same 'visual' context where the 'expanded'
abbreviation is visible in the same context, eg using the initials of a
familiar or recent msg poster eg BA could = Big Al
 - if you don't recognize some abbreviation, particularly if you wish
there were less of them, you should learn how to find out what one
means, ranging from checking the wp to using a dictionary of acronyms
and abbreviations
 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software

checking the "wp" you say?

[Mike Easter]

Post by Edmund

Post by Mike Easter

Post by Edmund
No idea what FOSS is other then yet again another abbreviation. :-)

In defense of abbreviations;
  - I'm someone who uses 'specific' abbreviations 'all the time'
having their meaning defined in the same 'visual' context where the
'expanded' abbreviation is visible in the same context,
ranging from checking the wp to using a dictionary of acronyms
and abbreviations
  - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software

checking the "wp" you say?

Exactly; see above.

The abbreviation wp is expanded in the same visual context as the
abbreviation itself.

wp = wikipedia indicated in the link very near the abbrev.

[Big Al]

Post by Mike Easter

Post by Edmund

Post by Mike Easter

Post by Edmund
No idea what FOSS is other then yet again another abbreviation. :-)

In defense of abbreviations;
  - I'm someone who uses 'specific' abbreviations 'all the time' having their meaning defined in
the same 'visual' context where the 'expanded' abbreviation is visible in the same context,
ranging from checking the wp to using a dictionary of acronyms and abbreviations
  - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software

checking the "wp" you say?

Exactly; see above.
The abbreviation wp is expanded in the same visual context as the abbreviation itself.
wp = wikipedia indicated in the link very near the abbrev.

I always thought wp was Word Perfect. Of course that probably would be WP in caps.

[Mike Easter]

I always thought wp was Word Perfect.  Of course that probably would be
WP in caps.

That gets into the famous 'what something means depends on the context'
concept, with which I don't always agree.

wp can mean wikipedia to me if that is the context; it might mean 'word
processor' or any number of other things depending on specific context.

*HOWEVER* that context idea does NOT mean that kilobyte can mean one
thing in one context and something else in another context. A kilobyte
is 1000 bytes, not 1024. 1024 bytes are a kibibyte.

Abbreviations are one thing; prefixes are another.

[Mike Easter]

A kilobyte is 1000 bytes, not 1024.  1024 bytes are a kibibyte.
Abbreviations are one thing; prefixes are another.

And, for the 'record' the 'internationally accepted' abbreviation for
kilobyte is Kb, while the similarly accepted abbreviation for kibibyte
is KiB.

The 'problem' w/ the apparent discrepancy in the lettercase of the K/k
is the 'inconsistency' in the base 10 family, where only the kilo is a
lower case, and all of the rest starting w/ mega are capped; whereas in
the base 2 family, the prefix abbreviation letter is always capped.

[Mike Easter]

oops; cases switched.

Post by Mike Easter
And, for the 'record' the 'internationally accepted' abbreviation for
kilobyte is Kb, while the similarly accepted abbreviation for kibibyte
is KiB.

Of course the kilobyte is kB (NOT Kb).

Post by Mike Easter
The 'problem' w/ the apparent discrepancy in the lettercase of the K/k
is the 'inconsistency' in the base 10 family, where only the kilo is a
lower case, and all of the rest starting w/ mega are capped; whereas in
the base 2 family, the prefix abbreviation letter is always capped.

[Mark Lloyd]

Post by Mike Easter

A kilobyte is 1000 bytes, not 1024.  1024 bytes are a kibibyte.
Abbreviations are one thing; prefixes are another.

And, for the 'record' the 'internationally accepted' abbreviation for
kilobyte is Kb, while the similarly accepted abbreviation for kibibyte
is KiB.
The 'problem' w/ the apparent discrepancy in the lettercase of the K/k
is the 'inconsistency' in the base 10 family, where only the kilo is a
lower case, and all of the rest starting w/ mega are capped; whereas in
the base 2 family, the prefix abbreviation letter is always capped.

And case matters for the last letter too. b is bits, B is bytes.

[Allodoxaphobia]

Post by Mark Lloyd

Post by Mike Easter

A kilobyte is 1000 bytes, not 1024.  1024 bytes are a kibibyte.
Abbreviations are one thing; prefixes are another.

And, for the 'record' the 'internationally accepted' abbreviation for
kilobyte is Kb, while the similarly accepted abbreviation for kibibyte
is KiB.
The 'problem' w/ the apparent discrepancy in the lettercase of the K/k
is the 'inconsistency' in the base 10 family, where only the kilo is a
lower case, and all of the rest starting w/ mega are capped; whereas in
the base 2 family, the prefix abbreviation letter is always capped.

And case matters for the last letter too. b is bits, B is bytes.

Standards are great! And there's so many to choose from!!
Jonesy

[Josef Möllers]

Post by Allodoxaphobia

Post by Mark Lloyd

Post by Mike Easter

A kilobyte is 1000 bytes, not 1024.  1024 bytes are a kibibyte.
Abbreviations are one thing; prefixes are another.

And, for the 'record' the 'internationally accepted' abbreviation for
kilobyte is Kb, while the similarly accepted abbreviation for kibibyte
is KiB.
The 'problem' w/ the apparent discrepancy in the lettercase of the K/k
is the 'inconsistency' in the base 10 family, where only the kilo is a
lower case, and all of the rest starting w/ mega are capped; whereas in
the base 2 family, the prefix abbreviation letter is always capped.

And case matters for the last letter too. b is bits, B is bytes.

Standards are great! And there's so many to choose from!!

And if you don't like any of them, you can still wait for next year's model!

SCNR,
Josef

[candycanearter07]

Post by Mark Lloyd

Post by Mike Easter

A kilobyte is 1000 bytes, not 1024.  1024 bytes are a kibibyte.
Abbreviations are one thing; prefixes are another.

And, for the 'record' the 'internationally accepted' abbreviation for
kilobyte is Kb, while the similarly accepted abbreviation for kibibyte
is KiB.
The 'problem' w/ the apparent discrepancy in the lettercase of the K/k
is the 'inconsistency' in the base 10 family, where only the kilo is a
lower case, and all of the rest starting w/ mega are capped; whereas in
the base 2 family, the prefix abbreviation letter is always capped.

And case matters for the last letter too. b is bits, B is bytes.

And i is never capitalized either, which is a bit weird.

[Jasen Betts]

Post by candycanearter07

Post by Mark Lloyd

Post by Mike Easter

A kilobyte is 1000 bytes, not 1024.  1024 bytes are a kibibyte.
Abbreviations are one thing; prefixes are another.

And, for the 'record' the 'internationally accepted' abbreviation for
kilobyte is Kb, while the similarly accepted abbreviation for kibibyte
is KiB.
The 'problem' w/ the apparent discrepancy in the lettercase of the K/k
is the 'inconsistency' in the base 10 family, where only the kilo is a
lower case, and all of the rest starting w/ mega are capped; whereas in
the base 2 family, the prefix abbreviation letter is always capped.

And case matters for the last letter too. b is bits, B is bytes.

And i is never capitalized either, which is a bit weird.

B is also Bel... as in decibel.

hmm

0dBB = 1 byte
10dBB = 10 bytes
30dBB = 1000 bytes.
90dBB = 1GB

With this we can linearise Moore's law, so basically a useless
diversion, sorry for wasting your time.

[candycanearter07]

Post by Jasen Betts

Post by candycanearter07

Post by Mark Lloyd

Post by Mike Easter

A kilobyte is 1000 bytes, not 1024.  1024 bytes are a kibibyte.
Abbreviations are one thing; prefixes are another.

And, for the 'record' the 'internationally accepted' abbreviation for
kilobyte is Kb, while the similarly accepted abbreviation for kibibyte
is KiB.
The 'problem' w/ the apparent discrepancy in the lettercase of the K/k
is the 'inconsistency' in the base 10 family, where only the kilo is a
lower case, and all of the rest starting w/ mega are capped; whereas in
the base 2 family, the prefix abbreviation letter is always capped.

And case matters for the last letter too. b is bits, B is bytes.

And i is never capitalized either, which is a bit weird.

B is also Bel... as in decibel.
hmm
0dBB = 1 byte
10dBB = 10 bytes
30dBB = 1000 bytes.
90dBB = 1GB
With this we can linearise Moore's law, so basically a useless
diversion, sorry for wasting your time.

Huh, I've never heard of using decibels for storage space.

[Big Al]

Post by Edmund

Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu website there are major
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

Now that I've been using 24.04 for a week or so, I see nothing different from 22.04 other than
when I check for updates, at least I am no longer urged to switch to Pro.

I made a partition and added it to my boot.  I looked at that first web page of 20 new things, a
good amount I don't use, might but don't.  I suppose this is all in the YMMV scenario.  The One
Drive access might be nice.

Excuse me, the one drive??
Isn't that a windows thing?
If so, what is nice about handing over your last bit of privacy to windows?

I put non-sensitive data on the cloud. MS or Google could look at it if they wanted. Most of the
stuff is themes and settings for a new install. It's free cloud storage. You may not want it, but
some might like a few gigs of cloud for free.

[Simon]

Post by Big Al

Post by Edmund

Ubuntu 24.04 will hit the shelves today and according to OMGUbuntu website there are major
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

Now that I've been using 24.04 for a week or so, I see nothing different from 22.04 other than
when I check for updates, at least I am no longer urged to switch to Pro.

I made a partition and added it to my boot.  I looked at that first web page of 20 new things, a
good amount I don't use, might but don't.  I suppose this is all in the YMMV scenario.  The One
Drive access might be nice.

Excuse me, the one drive??
Isn't that a windows thing?
If so, what is nice about handing over your last bit of privacy to windows?

I put non-sensitive data on the cloud. MS or Google could look at it if they wanted. Most of the
stuff is themes and settings for a new install. It's free cloud storage. You may not want it, but
some might like a few gigs of cloud for free.

I have found kopia can use rclone and encrypts the data, so you can use any
supported cloud storage, fairly safely.

[Paul]

Post by Edmund

Post by Jack
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-lts-20-changes-to-look-out-for>
<https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/ubuntu-24-04-beta-released>
I suspect all the beta features have survived in the RTM version.
Good luck and post your views about this new release.

Now that I've been using 24.04 for a week or so, I see nothing different from 22.04 other than when I check for updates, at least I am no longer urged to switch to Pro.

I made a partition and added it to my boot.  I looked at that first web page of 20 new things, a good amount I don't use, might but don't.  I suppose this is all in the YMMV scenario.  The One Drive access might be nice.

Excuse me, the one drive??
Isn't that a windows thing?
If so, what is nice about handing over your last bit of privacy to windows?

Do you have a GMail account ?

It would not be much different than transmission of email
via scraping-experts. Whether Google looks through my invoices
or Microsoft does forensics on my OneDrive, it's all the same
highly trusted activity :-)

I would store my Trombone collection on OneDrive .

I guess I'm not really a Cloud person.

Paul

[Dan Purgert]

Post by Paul
[...]
I guess I'm not really a Cloud person.

Who needs "the cloud(tm)" when they can run it themselves?